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FDM ed a file nearly 10,000 times from my site? 3oib

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FDM ed a file nearly 10,000 times from my site? 3oib

Postby Guest » Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:10 pm

Had an interesting situation over the weekend where a single visitor trying to one of the few files I host on my site managed to the same file almost 10,000 times falling just short of 25GB worth of data. I've actually never used FDM before (actually never heard of it before this week) so please bare with my lack of savvy here, but how could this happen?

I'm unimpressed as a as this one instance has skewed the heck out of my statistics for this file, and used a massive amount of resources (25GB is usually around 5 months worth of data for my site, not 2 days). Person I really feel for though is the as they have probably just set it going for the weekend and come back to find that most of their monthly quota has been blown out of the water. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
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Postby Guest » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:34 pm

Was the entire file ed each time, or just a portion? Frankly, it sounds like a malicious attack to me. If it were me I'd block the 's IP.
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Postby Guest » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:41 pm

Anonymous wrote:Was the entire file ed each time, or just a portion? Frankly, it sounds like a malicious attack to me. If it were me I'd block the 's IP.


1.) Nice and then? Most IP's are dynamically assigned - not fixed. So it's a useless and contra productive sollution.

2.) I would guess the simply set the "retry" option to "try for ever and ever and ..." + some error on his/ her side so the must have started over and over again.
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Postby Guest » Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:23 pm

Thanks for the replies. I don't think it was malicious as I've been able track the s access on my site from Google using a search term that was very relevant to the file they tried to .

I'm not sure where the error has occurred here, but I've been doing some reading and it appears that the CMS I am using may have some issues with file management. It might be something else altogether though as I've not seen this before and I sure this isn't the first time FDM has been used on my site.
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Postby Guest » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:24 pm

why u sure that the use FDM?
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Postby Guest » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:14 pm

because of the agent reported in my logs. Could have been a bot spoofing the agent string, but the path the came into and around the site looks fairly organic.
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Alex » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:35 pm

Was it FDM 2.x or FDM 1.x ?
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Postby Guest » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:00 am

FDM 2.x
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Re: FDM ed a file nearly 10,000 times from my s 46h3t

FDMan » Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:00 am

Anonymous wrote:Had an interesting situation over the weekend where a single visitor trying to one of the few files I host on my site managed to the same file almost 10,000 times falling just short of 25GB worth of data. I've actually never used FDM before (actually never heard of it before this week) so please bare with my lack of savvy here, but how could this happen?

I'm unimpressed as a as this one instance has skewed the heck out of my statistics for this file, and used a massive amount of resources (25GB is usually around 5 months worth of data for my site, not 2 days). Person I really feel for though is the as they have probably just set it going for the weekend and come back to find that most of their monthly quota has been blown out of the water. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.


My bad, wont happen again.
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Florin

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Postby Florin » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:10 pm

Hello,

I have the same issue here... I have a web site (OptimFROG Lossless Audio Compression, at http://www.LosslessAudio.org/) and it seems that from time to time, I get in just a single day something like 10-15 thousands requests, one second apart, for ing a single file with agent \
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Florin

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Postby Florin » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:15 pm

Hello,

I have the same issue here... I have a web site (OptimFROG Lossless Audio Compression, at http://www.LosslessAudio.org/) and it seems that from time to time, I get in just a single day something like 10-15 thousands requests, one second apart, for ing a single file with agent FDM 2.x, e.g. for this file

http://www.losslessaudio.org//O ... pr4510.php

This also makes a huge waste of traffic (in the order of GBs).

What would be the best server side workaround for this (when not using the latest version, because a new version will solve the problem only for the s having it, and most of them probably do not have it)?

I have also seen this problem described at
http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-12006

Please, could you confirm if it works, according to
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc ... ml#sec14.5
to put in the headers
Accept-Ranges: none
to prevent current and previous versions of FDM to try to use multiple ranges?

Otherwise, the only practical solution I see is to ban the agent FDM 2.x, which will probably affect negatively a lot of s?

Best regards,
Florin

P.S. It seems the forum is truncating the message text at the first real quote character, even if in preview it works ok. Please, delete my previous post fragment...
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